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Post by MMM on Sept 18, 2006 20:46:50 GMT -5
I think that area is where some of the proposed high-rises are to be built.
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Post by JerseyDigger29 on Sept 18, 2006 20:53:20 GMT -5
I think that area is where some of the proposed high-rises are to be built. The Riviera Resort project? If CAFRA ever gets off its butt and starts approving these places - Thom
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Post by firemansgirl on Sept 19, 2006 7:30:34 GMT -5
Thanks to both of you....I know we were told that our hotel was still going to be there next year for the firemen's convention. The guy gave us our contract already...
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Post by MMM on Sept 19, 2006 18:42:03 GMT -5
I think that area is where some of the proposed high-rises are to be built. The Riviera Resort project? If CAFRA ever gets off its butt and starts approving these places - Thom Thom, do you know if is there some sort of 1,000 feet from the ocean rule regarding CAFRA involvement (or lack of) in a property?
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Post by wildre on Sept 20, 2006 21:03:41 GMT -5
Martin, This may answer your question? AREAS AND ACTIVITIES ARE REGULATED? The Coastal Area Facility Review Act (CAFRA) (N.J.S.A. 13:19) CAFRA applies to projects near coastal waters in the southern part of the State. The CAFRA area begins where the Cheesequake Creek enters Raritan Bay in Old Bridge, Middlesex County. It extends south along the coast around Cape May, and then north along the Delaware Bay ending at the Kilcohook National Wildlife Refuge in Salem County. The inland limit of the CAFRA area follows an irregular line drawn along public roads, railroad tracks, and other features. The CAFRA area varies in width from a few thousand feet to 24 miles, measured straight inland from the shoreline. View the CAFRA zone map for a rough idea. The law divides the CAFRA area into pieces or zones, and regulates different types of development in each zone. Generally, the closer you are to the water, the more likely it is that your development will be regulated. The CAFRA law regulates almost all development activities involved in residential, commercial, or industrial development, including construction, relocation, and enlargement of buildings or structures; and all related work, such as excavation, grading, shore protection structures, and site preparation. More info at this website www.state.nj.us/dep/landuse/index.html
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Post by MMM on Sept 20, 2006 23:10:59 GMT -5
Thanks Marie. Sort of answers my question, but leaves me with others...
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Post by wildre on Sept 21, 2006 7:01:38 GMT -5
It appears to be on a case by case basis? No wonder the permitting process takes so long, lots of grey areas?
re
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Post by JerseyDigger29 on Sept 21, 2006 20:18:14 GMT -5
The Riviera Resort project? If CAFRA ever gets off its butt and starts approving these places - Thom Thom, do you know if is there some sort of 1,000 feet from the ocean rule regarding CAFRA involvement (or lack of) in a property? Martin, I'm not completely sure, it's been about 13 years since I had to deal with CAFRA regs when I was PB/ZB Secretary in Wildwood. If I remember correctly - and it's probably not completely correct. I think the law applies to any structure within a certain amount of feet -- or yards (not sure anymore) -- from either the "mean low water mark" or from the "inland edge" of any area covered or affected by the tides. ? In Wildwood, the inland edge of that area would be the cement parking lot on the edge of the beach; so many feet or yards inland from that. I remember someone saying way back something like "CAFRA started at the easterly cement wall of the boardwalk stores under the boardwalk and then regulated west from there." So if it's the "inland edge" it's either the easterly wall of the main boardwalk stores or the cement or concrete edge of the beach. That statement above where it says CAFRA can apply to areas up to 24 miles could be referring to large areas of tidal lands or marshes, or something. I do know that it would take a miracle from GOD to get permission from CAFRA to build anything on the tidal marshes in the back bay. (Except maybe for the renovation of structures that were there before CAFRA). Some years ago, some people in Wildwood were thinking of building a small golf course on one of the back bay islands with a bridge to Wildwood. Guess how far that idea got!!!! In Wildwood, I think it's primarily the areas so many feet or yards from the tidal areas I mentioned. If this is true, any building or structure on the east and west sides could be regulated but maybe not on New Jersey Avenue. If I'm wrong about this, please forgive me, it's been a long time and that's one of those things I never really had an interest in knowing. I seem to remember a project that came before the PB/ZB where the experts were talking about the "footprint of the building" falling within the CAFRA zone. Hope I'm right, but I wouldn't hold my breath here waiting to find out. Thom
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Post by MMM on Sept 24, 2006 15:41:05 GMT -5
Makes my head spin. Thanks!
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Post by wildwanderer on Oct 6, 2006 19:08:38 GMT -5
Going down to WW Crest next weekend. Spending time in both WW and Cape May also visiting relatives in Ocean City.
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Post by thelastresort on Oct 7, 2006 7:04:37 GMT -5
They can regulate up to 24 miles from shore? Amazing. I think Jersey is less than 48 miles wide between the Del Bay and the Atlantic, so I suppose technically that means they can regulate everything south of Camden if they want to.
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