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Post by wildwanderer on Apr 24, 2006 18:57:56 GMT -5
Whoa, my ears are burning. Wow what a thread. Hippies, what's wrong with that. I would rather see a hippie than an "80's" character any day. I know I was one of them. Totally embarassing, totally. As a person who was born during the "space age" I saw and continue to see different people whose dress, or hair, or makeup styles of uniqueness take part of the famous boardwalk. The fifties are a huge part of the WW persona,however the sixties were just as important. What if the children of the sixties gave up on WW where would it be? This thread is full of hatred from one board member for the sixties. Why? The music, dope, hair, peace, love, unfortunately the "dope" is still around. I will back peace, and love, and music, instead of hatred. Celebrate the sixties and do it in style for these years are part of history let's not forget them.
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Post by writhinganacondo on Apr 24, 2006 20:50:44 GMT -5
Frig the 60's. how is DOO WOP the 60's?? Does WW want to be Doo Wop or 60's? they are mutually exclusive. So, what are you saying exactly? That Wildwood should ignore any and all attempts to market itself that don't adhere strictly to the conforms of 50s nostalgia? "Doo Wop" is nothing more than a term. It was originally coined by Steve Izenour to refer to the island's large collection of mid-century motels (MANY that were built in the 60s and some even in the 70s, by the way). But, really, "Doo Wop" has sort of become a term that is meant to refer to the unique aspects of the Wildwoods. The Golden Nugget, to me, is Doo Wop. As is the Vegas Diner and Kelly's Cafe. The 60s were, by all accounts, a wonderful time to visit the Wildwoods, and much of the lore of the resort is steeped within the cultural roots of that particular decade. But, that's the thing about the Wildwoods. Different people "grew up" there and formulated countless experiences there over the course of time. So, like any other place, the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, etc., all played a HUGE role in the development of the island as we know it. And, get ready, because 60s weekend is already shaping up to be a success, and 70s, 80s and 90s weekends are going to be right around the corner... as well they should be... You should stop being such a doowop authority. The term was coined by Chuck Schumann and the MAC organization when they first ran some trolley tours circa 1992. The tours then didn't run until 5 years later. The late Steve Izenour did not like the term "doowop" as did many others. It caused too much confusion. There was a lot of debate to find another term. But once it hit the cover of Smithsonian Magazine it was here to stay. |
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Post by Al Alven on Apr 24, 2006 21:18:04 GMT -5
You should stop being such a doowop authority. The term was coined by Chuck Schumann and the MAC organization when they first ran some trolley tours circa 1992. The tours then didn't run until 5 years later. The late Steve Izenour did not like the term "doowop" as did many others. It caused too much confusion. There was a lot of debate to find another term. But once it hit the cover of Smithsonian Magazine it was here to stay. writhing, I've never claimed to be an authority on anything, let alone the emergence of the "Doo Wop" movement (or whatever you'd like to call it). If it was not Steve Izenour who coined the term, then I stand corrected. I had been told that this was the case by a few sources, but now I will go and research the matter further. At any rate, it's good to learn these things. Interesting that Chuck Schumann and the MAC organization came up with the term, and that they ran the trolley tours some 5 years before the DWPL was officially founded. I can understand the hesitancy by some to use the "Doo Wop" term, as it has caused some confusion over the years (and still does). I guess, as you said, though, once it hit the Smithsonian cover, that was essentially the end of the debate. Do you happen to know of any other potential terms that were being kicked around at the time? |
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Post by thelastresort on Apr 24, 2006 22:03:04 GMT -5
"former" being the operative word, right? I'll bet you are a CEO of a BIGGG BADD corporation or working on Wall Street now making $500K/yr  Heeheehee..sadly, no...I work at a CVS...but I'm still a Flower Child at heart...just traded my Love Beads for a Pentacle. ...oh..and just hit the 'quote thingie to get the box. *agh* getting smacked with peace signs for giving away the Hippy Secrets!! wow, thanks! and sorry for all the crazy rant on the 60's, I get like that sometimes.... |
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Post by thelastresort on Apr 24, 2006 22:31:13 GMT -5
ok, I see everyone's point, the "60's weekend" is just a nice little novelty thing to get people and $$$$ into WW on an otherwise dead off-season weekend. Fine. but, again, would Cape May EVER have a "roaring twenties" weekend, or a "big bands" weekend? not a chance in hell. But why not?  It would bring in money, right? and after all, isn't THAT the name of the game? Or...could it be that such an event would be out of sorts with the image Cape May is trying to preserve? hmmm, I wonder........ |
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Post by JerseyDigger29 on Apr 24, 2006 23:20:10 GMT -5
ok, I see everyone's point, the "60's weekend" is just a nice little novelty thing to get people and $$$$ into WW on an otherwise dead off-season weekend. Fine. but, again, would Cape May EVER have a "roaring twenties" weekend, or a "big bands" weekend? not a chance in hell. But why not? It would bring in money, right? and after all, isn't THAT the name of the game? Or...could it be that such an event would be out of sorts with the image Cape May is trying to preserve? hmmm, I wonder........ Just a comment about Cape May having a Big Band weekend. Just yesterday, the first Cape May JAZZ FESTIVAL of the year ended successfully.  The star attraction was Hugh Masakela, whose greatest hit was a sixties song called "Grazing in the Grass." There were also other jazz greats there. Not one person there was alive, or even remembers the Victorian Age, they just love jazz. And since CM prides itself on being kind of artsy-fartsy, jazz fits in well there. The reason Cape May is totally Victorian is because almost the entire town burned down in one night in 1876 I believe. (About the same time as the great Chicago Fire but Chicago got all the publicity because of that damn cow). Since the town burned down in the Victorian Age, it was only natural they rebuilt it with so much Victorian Architecture. That was the style at the time. Anyway, the Victorian Era in Cape May was a time of John Philip Sousa, who performed at Congress Hall and the gazebo on Lafayette Street. (Now that's a BIG Band - I served in one of the Navy Bands he formed back then, many years later. The descendants of his original military band program are still tootin' their horns to this day. I think his original band program had about 500 to 600 members who broke up into smaller units). The Sousa era gave way to Ragtime and Scott Joplin, which gave way to the Flapper age of the Roaring 20's. My point is that just because CM is Victorian or because the Wildwoods is Doo Wop doesn't mean the city has to limit itself to its main identity. Both cities can have festivals celebrating any period they want, if they have a large enough market of people who enjoy that kind of thing. Doo Wop or not, I think all styles of music are appropriate for the Wildwoods. This island has also been here since the late 1800's and has experienced everything that happened during those year. I'll bet, if you ask many of our grandparents about Wildwood and Doo Wop, they'll laugh in your face, call you names, and start rattling off the virtues of Jimmy Dorsey playing at Ocean Pier in the late 30's and early 40's. We celebrate the Doo Wop capital of the world, but the Wildwoods is also a lot more than just Doo Wop. It's something different for every person who has ever been here and fell in love with the place. Respectfully - Thom, a Ragtime, Swing, Bebop, Big Band, Hoy Hoy, Jazz, Doo Wop, Rock and Roll-loving product of the sixties.  But screw Rap!!  TheWildwoodsReporter.com |
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Post by thelastresort on Apr 24, 2006 23:34:24 GMT -5
I guess I just have 60's fatigue, it just freaked me out that IT (i.e., the 60's) has to push it's way into everything, even our nice Doo Wop nostalgia, which made me react with my "frig the 60's" indictment. like "here it goes again". I realize it is just a fun weekend, I just like creating a ruckus sometimes, perhaps it is the 10% "hippie" in me.... |
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Post by rhi on Apr 27, 2006 20:07:46 GMT -5
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It would bring in money, right? and after all, isn't THAT the name of the game? Or...could it be that such an event would be out of sorts with the image Cape May is trying to preserve? hmmm, I wonder........ 
The star attraction was Hugh Masakela, whose greatest hit was a sixties song called "Grazing in the Grass." There were also other jazz greats there. Not one person there was alive, or even remembers the Victorian Age, they just love jazz. And since CM prides itself on being kind of artsy-fartsy, jazz fits in well there.
