scca28
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Post by scca28 on Oct 7, 2006 2:32:37 GMT -5
[quote author=captphil board=generaleverything thread=1160153482 post=1160188560 Please please do not disrespect the troops overseas, weather you agree with the war or not. They are American boys and girls, who are fighting terrorist, so we can all have a better and safer future.[/quote]
My household and our neighbors appreciate them everyday. We just wish there was more news reporting the gains our guys and girls are making instead of just hearing how many Americans were killed by roadside bombs. I have some old news clippings saved by my grandmother as she tracked my dad's journey through Europe during WW ll, and most of them talk about the great advances our troops were making against the enemy. I know it was an attempt to keep the utmost support for the troops from the home front, and it worked. Today they are afraid to report on any positive U.S. action because there is probably going to be some bogus allegation and investigation any time one of our guys fires a shot. Sometimes it seems like our guys are sitting ducks over there, and that ain't fair! Maybe we need to go back to the old days and let the armed forces film and report on the war, and kick out all the "investigative" reporters in their designer body armour who only want to get the scandalous stories associated with war. To any U.S. service men and women who enjoy this web site, Thank You!!!
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Post by thelastresort on Oct 7, 2006 6:45:08 GMT -5
ok, wow, I never thought this thread would get so deep, especially about the war. I'm no expert certainly, but here is some food for thought...
Iraq --
What was Bush supposed to do? He and the administration did what they thought was the right move with the information they had at the time. And it's easy to criticize him now. Had he not attacked, the Dems and in particular, the liberals, would be b-tching about how he is "soft" by allowing a dictator (Saddam Hussein) to remain in power. In my opinion, he did the right thing at the time. Politically, he was in a "no win" situation. The press hates him, and would find an excuse to bash him no matter what.
Also, get those embedded reporters out of there. They are p-ssies and troublemakers just waiting for an opportunity to make our troops look bad. I would be happy with whatever censored reports the DOD gives us. There are no "Ernie Pyles" anymore.
Perhaps the biggest mistake is that the admin is perhaps not fighting the Iraq war aggressively enough. Right after Baghdad fell, the administration should have authorized enough troops to lock down the hot spots, and install Marshall law with curfews. I had 3 uncles in WWII, two are dead now. One who just died a few years ago could not understand how Iraqi civilians are allowed to roam the streets with firearms. In contrast, when they were making the push across France and Germany, any person carrying a weapon who was not in an allied uniform (US, British, French, etc.) was fired upon and/or arrested. Near the end (spring 1945) they gave towns a day or two head-up that they were coming, and citizens were told that all weapons had to be laid in a pile in the town square and they were to hang a white bedsheet out of their window. If a house did not have a bedsheet hanging, they had a Sherman put a round into it, end of story. If weapons were found in a house, all occupants were arrested. SS were shot, for the most part, especially after it was found that the SS massacred about 100 captured US troops at Malmady in Dec '44.
And finally, what happened to the strategy of "total and absolute victory"? Why run on the philosophy that started during the Korean war, which is to get in, have some major early victories, then occupy until everyone gets disgusted, then leave? Let them finish the job.
If anything, the troops are doing a miraculous and fantastic job. God bless them all.
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Post by Doowopper on Oct 7, 2006 8:45:00 GMT -5
Gas here is about 2.19, maybe even less now, I haven't checked in a week.
Around Thanksgiving it could go up, but I see it going up no more than 10 cents, and maybe even going back down a few weeks later. Gas prices are juedged by Supply and Demand. There is more than enough supply now. However, the gas companies are still giving hell to diesel drivers, which should actually have the lowest prices.
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helen
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Post by helen on Oct 7, 2006 18:50:28 GMT -5
It was on the news this week that prices will rise again soon.
It is about $2.29 in delco, pa. I was in NJ today and paid $2.01 on Route 70!
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Post by nance on Oct 7, 2006 20:23:30 GMT -5
Thank you for that wonderful post, thelast. As far as uniforms and civilians; you'd be surprised how many Iraqi's confiscate and wear our uniforms. So unless everyone is checked with ID's, how would you know who was who? But the same thing went on in WWII, also. We are TRYING to train them so we can get out. Here, on the military channel, they stress the good the military is doing. The media has a way of finding only the dirty and juicy news. I say we all pull out and let the whole country slaughter each other; because the way it's going, the population should be slowly deminishing anyway. I also have another question, why is it our soldiers are over there fighting FOR US, and no one seems to want to talk about it and discuss it??
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scca28
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Post by scca28 on Oct 8, 2006 1:51:52 GMT -5
I say we all pull out and let the whole country slaughter each other; because the way it's going, the population should be slowly deminishing anyway. quote] Yeh, you'd think by now they should be running out of suicide bombers if nothing else, right?
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Post by nance on Oct 8, 2006 3:43:19 GMT -5
I sure would think so. Who in their right and having a normal mind would actual WANT to be suicide bombers?? Now that's what I call REAL brain washing! My daughter actually said to me around the religious holidays, more WANT to die because they want their reward they believe they will get in heaven. They should have more holidays; maybe that's our answer to calm things down. :-o
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Post by thelastresort on Oct 8, 2006 8:26:35 GMT -5
I'm wondering if anyone remembers hearing a speech like this after September 11?
As commander in chief of the Army and Navy, I have directed that all measures be taken for our defense.
Always will we remember the character of the onslaught against us.
No matter how long it may take us to overcome this premeditated invasion, the American people in their righteous might will win through to absolute victory.
I believe I interpret the will of the Congress and of the people when I assert that we will not only defend ourselves to the uttermost, but will make very certain that this form of treachery shall never endanger us again.
Hostilities exist. There is no blinking at the fact that our people, our territory and our interests are in grave danger.
With confidence in our armed forces - with the unbounding determination of our people - we will gain the inevitable triumph - so help us God.
If you don't, it's because it's an excerpt from the speech FDR gave on December 8, 1941. Funny, I don't see any reference to "the peaceful people of Japan".
We cannot win if we try to fight a PC war and are so afraid of "offending" our enemies.
And how does the "war on terror" relate to Wildwood? Well, if God forbid we lose this one, there will be no Wildwood to worry about.
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tbear
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Post by tbear on Oct 8, 2006 18:09:02 GMT -5
$1.95 on route 73 this morning. I'm wondering if the car manufacturers are having a hand in this drop since they were losing soooo much money with the lack of SUV and truck sales. We would have been broke if we still had our F150 and our SUV back when the prices were $3 a gallon.
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Post by wildwanderer on Oct 8, 2006 18:32:31 GMT -5
The cheapest I saw in our area was $2.11 and that was out past Reading PA.
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Post by nance on Oct 9, 2006 2:30:31 GMT -5
Isn't this the general discussion for anything? You got that right. If Iran keeps going like it is, there won't be anything anywhere to worry about. You know what I find kind of ironic, though? Japan bombed Pearl Harbor and guess who most of the residents are here? So what was the point in the first place? I really doubt things will turn out that way, though, because I feel this is most of a religious war anyway over power. By the way, gas prices dropped again here to an amazing $2.86!!!!!
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Post by thelastresort on Oct 20, 2006 7:38:19 GMT -5
www.newjerseygasprices.com/Buck 82 on the Black Horse Pike. And again, the Dow is at record highs unemployment is at record lows interest rates are still falling, approaching record lows. the deficit is lowest in 4 years (even with a war on), and historically low compared to the GNP and on and on and on...... So whoever out there thinks Nancy Pelosi/Harry Reid can do any better, have at it!
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Post by FlyinGN on Oct 20, 2006 9:44:31 GMT -5
I agree..... Good analogy.. ok, wow, I never thought this thread would get so deep, especially about the war. I'm no expert certainly, but here is some food for thought... Iraq -- What was Bush supposed to do? He and the administration did what they thought was the right move with the information they had at the time. And it's easy to criticize him now. Had he not attacked, the Dems and in particular, the liberals, would be b-tching about how he is "soft" by allowing a dictator (Saddam Hussein) to remain in power. In my opinion, he did the right thing at the time. Politically, he was in a "no win" situation. The press hates him, and would find an excuse to bash him no matter what. Also, get those embedded reporters out of there. They are p-ssies and troublemakers just waiting for an opportunity to make our troops look bad. I would be happy with whatever censored reports the DOD gives us. There are no "Ernie Pyles" anymore. Perhaps the biggest mistake is that the admin is perhaps not fighting the Iraq war aggressively enough. Right after Baghdad fell, the administration should have authorized enough troops to lock down the hot spots, and install Marshall law with curfews. I had 3 uncles in WWII, two are dead now. One who just died a few years ago could not understand how Iraqi civilians are allowed to roam the streets with firearms. In contrast, when they were making the push across France and Germany, any person carrying a weapon who was not in an allied uniform (US, British, French, etc.) was fired upon and/or arrested. Near the end (spring 1945) they gave towns a day or two head-up that they were coming, and citizens were told that all weapons had to be laid in a pile in the town square and they were to hang a white bedsheet out of their window. If a house did not have a bedsheet hanging, they had a Sherman put a round into it, end of story. If weapons were found in a house, all occupants were arrested. SS were shot, for the most part, especially after it was found that the SS massacred about 100 captured US troops at Malmady in Dec '44. And finally, what happened to the strategy of "total and absolute victory"? Why run on the philosophy that started during the Korean war, which is to get in, have some major early victories, then occupy until everyone gets disgusted, then leave? Let them finish the job. If anything, the troops are doing a miraculous and fantastic job. God bless them all.
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Post by FlyinGN on Oct 20, 2006 9:49:00 GMT -5
2.13 in Rockledge Wawa station..
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Post by wildre on Oct 20, 2006 10:10:02 GMT -5
Yesterday at the Wawa on Rio Grande regular was 1.91 gal.
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