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Post by videoventures65 on Feb 17, 2006 13:30:00 GMT -5
Hey Everyone---can this be the wake up call we have all been waiting for?? Please refer to the following article in the Wildwood Leader! thewildwoodleader.com/pages/page_03.htmIt seems at least 486 condo owners have been cited for major violations in their units--fire suppression systems---fire exits--fire walls and they have 45 days to fix the problems or face $2000 dollar a week fines!. Isn't it wonderful these builders and apparently the inspectors screwed eveyone and now the burden is put on the new owners! We have all spoken how these inspections and builders have skated the law for the last few years to get the units built--now the owners get the big bite in the ass!! WAKE UP ALL YOU POTENTIAL BUYERS!!!!!!!
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Post by JIMD on Feb 17, 2006 20:26:07 GMT -5
Interesting article. Seems to me the inspectors are in quite a bit of trouble as well
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Post by FlyinGN on Feb 18, 2006 7:07:48 GMT -5
I've been in the 'business' for many years and everyone knows that most inspectors do not do their jobs. I can't tell ya how many times $$ has exchanged hands and inspections were waived.
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Post by wildre on Feb 18, 2006 10:54:45 GMT -5
One of the builders mention hasn't been very supportive of the DWPL as per a post by our own Doo Wop Mike D. dwpl.proboards44.com/index.cgi?action=userrecentposts&user=admin They appear to also be in the process of changing their name to Bella Mar. Their location is the former location of the DWPL, how ironic is that? The principals are listed as Pat & Greg DiAntonio. Pat was quoted in the Leader article. Here's what Mike D wrote back on 4/29 "Edgewater Properties www.edgewaterprop.com is responsible for much of the demolition and condo/townhouse development in the Crest...
They have been responsible for the Satellite, Schumann's Restaurant, Three Coins, Tahiti, Bonanza, Waterways, Siesta and others...
They pretty much build the same exact vinyl-sided condo design on every site...
They have not been receptive at all to the DWPL... they rejected our plan to expand the Satellite with a Doo Wop design, preserve the boomerang-roofed lobby and add condo units, and well, you see what they're building there now instead...
Needless to say, if we had a "Doo Wop Villains" category, they'd be at the top of the list..."
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Post by wildwanderer on Feb 19, 2006 18:43:55 GMT -5
I've been in the 'business' for many years and everyone knows that most inspectors do not do their jobs. I can't tell ya how many times $$ has exchanged hands and inspections were waived. This problem seems to go on everywhere. I've heard of it from relatives and friends of mine. $$ talks.
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Post by Al Alven on Feb 22, 2006 11:42:27 GMT -5
Truer words, sadly, have never been spoken.
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Post by wildre on Feb 22, 2006 17:57:09 GMT -5
Somethings been nagging at me abou this fiasco. Why was WC spared these defective condo's? Where they just lucky?
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Post by homer on Feb 25, 2006 1:24:30 GMT -5
Somethings been nagging at me abou this fiasco. Why was WC spared these defective condo's? Where they just lucky? re Developers, architects and builders have known for years that they can't "get away with" the same things in Wildwood Crest that they can in the other municipalities. So here's the real question: If they knew it wouldn't fly in WC, do you think they knew they were violating the code? Hmmm... As for Pat DiAntonio and Edgewater Properties: You'll notice that he has changed his high-profile company name to "Bella Mar Properties" to put distance between him and this mess he had a large hand in creating. He has been using this tactic for years. He operates under a number of LLCs to prevent easy tracking of his funds, influence and misdeeds. And his influence is large. He and his brother (Mike, owner/operator of the Aqua Beach and numerous other properties) own an unbelievable amount of real estate on the island. Mike seems to be operating on the up-and-up, but one of Pat's recent acquisitions was the oldest home in WC...he demolished it and sold the empty lot. 'Nuff said? (There's plenty more, but I don't want to get off track...) Namely: This JCOW debacle is a huge situation, folks. I don't think I'm over-reacting when I say that this situation could send investors running for the exits... ...and then you can say good-bye to Doo-Wop-themed high-rises.
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Post by Doowopper on Feb 25, 2006 8:42:51 GMT -5
Doo-Wop or not I don't think there should be any highrises in the Wildwoods.
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Post by JerseyDigger29 on Feb 25, 2006 9:30:07 GMT -5
Doo-Wop or not I don't think there should be any highrises in the Wildwoods. With all due respect, people who say this, although it's an understandable opinion, never give an alternate answer for the problem the highrises are supposed to address: If you don't want the highrises, where are we going to get the rooms to replace the hundreds that have been lost? Where? Where are people goiing to stay? Without enough hotel rooms to house a sufficient number of visitors to support our economy, we will have no economy. Not enough rooms means not enough people will come here. Again, where will you find the rooms? Thom
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Post by homer on Feb 25, 2006 19:16:29 GMT -5
I've been in the 'business' for many years and everyone knows that most inspectors do not do their jobs. I can't tell ya how many times $$ has exchanged hands and inspections were waived. Yes, 'waived ' inspections would be bad enough, but the real problem here started in the plan review process. The plans that were submitted did not meet the appropriate fire codes. These condos were doomed from the word 'go.' But nobody threw up the red flag...until 500 mis-zoned units were already built and sold...some of them twice (once at "pre-construction price" and again when they were "flipped.")
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Post by wildre on Feb 25, 2006 19:38:28 GMT -5
Thanks Homer for the info. I also thought it may be because the x-JCOW official, was the construction official in WC? Speaking of which I hear he's still on the Island selling real estate? Anyone want to comment on that?
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Post by wildre on Feb 25, 2006 19:40:09 GMT -5
Homer so these errors began at the planning stage, who was/is responsible for that? Never was caught through the entire process on 500 condo's. How many different projects was that in total, over how many years? I said it before, we need an island wide planning department with professionals with degrees in city planning and acquainted with the local codes and zoning. These appointed members of these local boards have no experience and may have anther agenda. Not professionals with the knowledge that's needed to make these decision without staff members to guide them properly. Sure it will cost $$$$, any idea what this mess will end up costing, not to mention the bad PR the Island will have to face for years to come!!! A planning dept would be cheap in comparison.
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Post by homer on Feb 25, 2006 20:38:56 GMT -5
I also thought it may be because the x-JCOW official, was the construction official in WC? Mike Preston?You know I do... The architect(s) and JCOW, in my opinion. I'd like to condemn the developers, but only the architects and public officials swear an oath to the communities they serve.
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Post by wildre on Feb 25, 2006 20:46:19 GMT -5
Yep, Mike Preston.I think I read that sometimes ago that he was the WC construction offical. Think it might have been the Leader back when they were dealing with his bonus it was mentioned. Something like, since he joined JCOW, he wasn't on the WC benefit package any longer. Awaiting your comments
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