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Post by Crippled_Visions on Apr 17, 2005 11:33:01 GMT -5
ah no!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and I am offended that you would even ask such a thing. Don't get upset Momto2....my visions are crippled. It's like a disability. You don't hate people with disabilities do you?
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Post by momto2 on Apr 17, 2005 15:21:56 GMT -5
don't even go there... Please don't start to assume things. There are crippled people in my family and that is the end of this topic.
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Post by choochoochuck on Apr 17, 2005 15:54:54 GMT -5
wow I guess I'm the youngest person on this bored... ;D
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Post by FlyinGN on Apr 17, 2005 17:17:59 GMT -5
yea you win Chuck for the youngest!
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Post by momto2 on Apr 17, 2005 21:31:34 GMT -5
See the following post from you a whike back...
So you drive at 13! LOL
Started by Al Alven | Post by choochoochuck Whenever i drive to the boardwalk from stone harbor i always pass the Lollipop. it looks so cool and its a classic and one of a kind. IM SO HAPPY ITS BEING SAVED
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Post by Crippled_Visions on Apr 17, 2005 22:10:45 GMT -5
Jeez Momto2...don't attack choochoochuck. Maybe he means that he was driving with his mommy and daddy.
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Post by momto2 on Apr 18, 2005 7:54:09 GMT -5
Ok Crippled Visions why are you attacking me??? First of all it wasn't an attack if you noticed I put a LOL in the post. Do you honestly believe he is 13?? Come on.. Unless this is part of your handicap, then please lay off me.
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Post by Al Alven on Apr 18, 2005 9:59:11 GMT -5
I’m 26, and will turn 27 on August 28th.
In all sincerity though, every time I visit the Wildwoods, I feel like I am a kid again.
There is, was and always will be a magic aura about the island for me, and I’m glad that so many of us share that same feeling.
My wife is 27 (three months older than me) and my son, Lucas, is 15 months old today. I know many of my friends on this board have young kids as well, ranging in age from very young to fully grown.
Fatherhood (and family life) is still a new experience for me, but I am growing to love every aspect of it. As wonderful as the freedom of adolescence was (enjoy it while you can, Chuck!), isn’t it great to help pass traditions like coming to the Wildwoods to a new generation?
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Post by Al Alven on Apr 18, 2005 10:07:57 GMT -5
Everyone,
It is apparent that Crippled Visions, like DEVIL and Church Lady before her/him, is primarily here to stir up trouble. Comments made in this and other posts by this character have been blatantly distasteful and offensive.
As difficult as the temptation to do so may be, please do not respond to CV or any other poster who attempts to hijack our discussions here. The sooner they are ignored (and the sooner we notify moderator Mike) the sooner they will disappear.
I am all for fun and humor, but there is a time and a place for such things. There is also the matter of crossing the line of decency and common courtesy.
As we continue to build a strong sense of community on this message board, the last thing we need to do is feed into trolls such as this, and their desire to disrupt our well-intentioned discussions.
momto2, I am sorry that you had to be subjected to such rude and vulgar comments by this person. Hopefully, you will not have to worry about it any longer.
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Post by novacancy on Apr 18, 2005 10:18:21 GMT -5
Al Alven,
You are right. The best way to deal with this situation is to ignore it and it will go away...kind of like when my preschool aged children are acting out!
Unfortunately, I didn't read this thread before I addressed Mr. Crippled V on another thread. Guess its to late to delete...but I will no longer address his threads in anyway, and I hope others will do the same.
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Post by AnthonyV on Apr 18, 2005 10:25:00 GMT -5
Al,
Happy Birthday to your little son!
Yes. Like yourself, the premise of passing on the Wildwood tradition is an important one - which is why, I suppose, many of us would like for things to basically stay the way they while trying to improve and keep the "feel" for the place.
But that "aura" you speak of with so much passion is rapidly fading to a large extent and I'm one who won't be foolish enough to think it'll always be here by the time your son and mine have a family. In all probablity, this island will hardly resemble the place you, I, and so many others remember from our younger days. Take a good look at what remains of the original landscape because it's rapidly becoming a part of a fading history that's all too common all along the Jersey Shore these days.
I guess it was ignorant of me to think that this island would be so originally well preserved going into this new millenium. I was so wrong...
This island is in serious trouble of losing it's original identity - which has already been happening here in the Crest. The horrible truth is that everytime a building disappears so does a small part of the kid within us fade away as well.
Sure, there's the boardwalk I suppose...But the boardwalk is only one part (though a major part) of the culture down here which was/is enhanced by the quirky yet original motels. That's what Wildwood has always been about and that's what Mr. Izenour tried to build on before his death. It's what this entire Doo Wop Preservatiion League is based on as part of his legacy. And sadly enough, that legacy just doesn't seem to be enough for some people anymore.
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Post by Al Alven on Apr 18, 2005 10:50:56 GMT -5
Anthony,
Thanks for the “birthday” wishes… I will surely pass them along to the little guy!
Sadly, what you say is so true.
You know me. I’m the eternal optimist. Still, it would be foolish and blind of me to ignore what has already happened and what continues to happen with regard to the destruction of the past on our island.
As you mentioned, the patterns of history suggest ominous things for the Wildwoods. Once the (wrecking) ball got rolling on the motel demolitions about two years ago, it picked up incredible, unforeseen momentum. The tide has yet to be stemmed, and it may not be until the entire island is completely transformed.
I guess, however, the reason I retain some semblance of optimism for the Wildwoods’ future is that, unlike other Jersey Shore towns like Ocean City, Sea Isle and Avalon, there is resistance here. It may mean little in the long run (because money talks ultimately), but at least there are clear and public efforts being made to preserve the past, and the cultural history of the island.
We really face an uphill battle here, no question. And I, like others here, do feel that a piece of me is lost every time one of these great motels is destroyed. But, I also believe that it is the nature of a resort community (and the Wildwoods’ history) for “re-invention” to occur every now and then.
When I see blue prints or “artist’s renditions” of places like the proposed Nouveau Wave Hotel and the Wildwood Beach Hotel, I feel like a part of my (and my family’s) history and the island’s legacy is being restored. I desperately wish I could bring back the Rio and the Satellite and the Tahiti, but, well, that’s just not going to happen.
Condo-mania is here, and that is the reality. But, are these structures truly built to last? In a few years, will they prove to be as profitable as the market currently indicates? Might a reversal of fortune be in the stars, coupled with a newly-invigorated Neo-Doo Wop revolution two, three, five or 10 years down the line?
Those are the questions I continue to ponder. In the meantime, yes, we lose large chunks of our past on a weekly basis. But, what can we do? I feel like I have no choice but to be optimistic, but that is my nature. It might be misguided, I know. But I have faith that the Wildwoods will emerge from these “dark ages” better than ever when all is said and done.
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Post by AnthonyV on Apr 18, 2005 10:57:28 GMT -5
Al,
I admire, respect, and almost envy your optimism. I really do.
Some things though defy optimism to a point and it's those things that seem to concern most of us here. It's hard to remain optimistic when the town around you is filled with dust from all the demolition that's been going on day in and day out.
Regardless of what I say or think, don't ever lose that optimism.
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Post by AnthonyV on Apr 18, 2005 11:08:58 GMT -5
I re-read your last post Al and kind of see and understand your opinions more clearly now...No, I don't think those motels were ever built to last probably as long as they have. I also believe that their life-span is limited to a large and certain extent.
But I also think that a lot of these motels should have been replaced with newer motels to take their place - not condos. In fact, I would almost welcome any hotel chain to come in and build rather than have these condos here. Such an ordinance could have easily been passed and put into place years ago here in the Crest, but it never happened even after it was suggested a few times at open public meetings! According to town records, it was never even seriously considered or discussed by any officials as a serious alternative after it was brought up as an alternative.
Hell, I'm waiting for limiting the demolition to come up as a resolution that can be voted on and decided by Crest residents! I'll be long gone from this town before that ever happens I'm sure.
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Post by FlyinGN on Apr 18, 2005 11:11:44 GMT -5
Al, wish your Son a happy b day!! My Sons was march 31.. 11 years old. Time flies.. enjoy every day.. Frank I’m 26, and will turn 27 on August 28th. In all sincerity though, every time I visit the Wildwoods, I feel like I am a kid again. There is, was and always will be a magic aura about the island for me, and I’m glad that so many of us share that same feeling. My wife is 27 (three months older than me) and my son, Lucas, is 15 months old today. I know many of my friends on this board have young kids as well, ranging in age from very young to fully grown. Fatherhood (and family life) is still a new experience for me, but I am growing to love every aspect of it. As wonderful as the freedom of adolescence was (enjoy it while you can, Chuck!), isn’t it great to help pass traditions like coming to the Wildwoods to a new generation?
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